Linux: has the horse bolted?

Linux: has the horse bolted?


Richard Stallman wants to popularise the term GNU/Linux instead of using the currently popular term Linux. He correctly states that the term Linux, besides being thoroughly inaccurate, totally fails to introduce new users to the legal and philosophical concepts that underlie the basis of the GNU/Linux OS; but is it feasible to make such a change at this late stage?

Some weeks ago, trolling through prospective articles for Free Software Daily, I encountered a blog, describing the evolution of “Linux”. It was aimed at Newbies. The blog correctly described Linus Torvalds as the creator of the Linux kernel and a few more recent developments, but that was it. No mention was made that Richard Stallman actually created much of what is now called “Linux”, no mention of the GPL, or how it works, no mention of the copyleft legal concept and no mention of other responsibilities placed on users and developers.

All of Richard Stallman's worst fears confirmed in one blog.

This pattern of inaccurate, or missing, information about the basic provenance of the GNU/Linux legal and software environment, is continually repeated in blogs and in the mainstream media.

Stallman's fears are easily confirmed, yet I fear that the “Linux” horse has already bolted.

The Problem

Back at the beginning of the century, when I first saw people using GNU/Linux, they either called the OS, Linux, or else the name of the distribution they were using. A few years later, I started using GNU/Linux myself, but I only knew the OS as "Linux" till I started writing here. For the first couple of years, I knew a bit about Linus Torvalds and something called the Linux kernel, but almost nothing about Richard Stallman. He seemed to have connection with something called GNU, which I thought was just another Linux distribution. I was a typical Microsoft refugee who had learned almost nothing about computers after a decade of using Microsoft.

This is the problem that Stallman is now facing: sheer ignorance on an increasingly massive scale. I say increasingly, because more and more people are hearing about, and using, GNU/Linux, without having any better understanding of it than I did, years ago.

The second stage of the problem involves linguistics and usage.

I only did a year of linguistics, but I'm sure that if Richard Stallman asks linguistics students, at the next university he visits, which of the two terms, GNU/Linux, or just Linux, is most likely to survive, they will say “Linux” with hardly any hesitation.

My understanding is that language always devolves towards simpler forms rather than more complex ones.

Try writing both words and Linux is easier to write than GNU/Linux. Try saying them and Linux just rolls off your tongue, whereas GNU/Linux is much harder to say.

Consider all the publications with Linux in the title. Can we get all those to substitute GNU/Linux for Linux? Can we get Linux World to become GNU/Linux World? We might, but I won't try to hold my breathe while I'm waiting. If we can't, then the term "Linux" is getting forced further into the public thinking pattern.

Can we get mainstream journalists to start using the term GNU/Linux? Almost certainly not! Most of them will feel pretty smart if they are even familiar with the word Linux. They'd insist that the public don't know the term GNU/Linux and it would only confuse them to use it at this stage, which is pretty true. But if we don't, then the term Linux is getting forced further into the public thought processes.

A possible solution

I don't really have one. I often use the words "Free Software Community" which I hope gives the new user the idea that there is a lot more involved than just the word Linux, but it's not a perfect solution by any means.

What's needed is some alternative copyleft-style solutions.

We need to raise public awareness that the term, "Linux", involves a complete package of solutions to most (all?) of their Microsoft woes. The package includes one of a number of possible software solutions, based on the Linux kernel of Linus Torvalds and the GNU software packages developed by Richard Stallman. That it includes its own unique legal protection system, also developed by Richard Stallman. That it also brings a very large international network of users with it, and that it's, mostly, entirely free.

Maybe, the GPL should be modified so it insists that all distributions include a page, prepared by the FSF, to appear on the desktop of all new installations. It would briefly outline all the details of GNU/Linux development and communal aims and responsibilities. Then, not so many new users would remain as ignorant as I was, for so long.

Such a page could link to FSF, and other informative sites, to give a newbie a very quick grounding in the whole Free Software Community environment.

Could this work?

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Terry Hancock's picture

Maybe, the GPL should be modified so it insists that all distributions include a page, prepared by the FSF, to appear on the desktop of all new installations.

In other words, "reintroduce the old BSD advertising clause".

No, that would not work. The FSF (correctly) argued vehemently that such a provision was "non-free". When XFree86 tried to re-introduce an advertising clause, it created the schism that led to the new X.org distribution of X and abandonment of the old XFree86 package.

Is calling it "Linux" inaccurate? Is calling it "GNU/Linux" appreciably more accurate? Look at the third figure in my article "Impossible Thing #1:... if you want to see how things really stack up.

Laurie Langham's picture

G'day Terry, congratulations on "Impossible things"; most impressive in its scope.

I don't think that what I was proposing could be considered "advertising" in any way. The page would briefly describe the contributions of the two people who developed the basic concept of what is now known as GNU/Linux, describe the copyleft principle and the GPL, and provide handy links to the FSF and other notable sites in the basic Free Software Community.

This would provide a distribution independent history, coupled with an introduction into the philosophy behind Free Software. The page would take the form of a desktop icon and could either be deleted after reading, or saved, if the user desired to keep it for later reference.

This would be an instructional page rather than a 'Ubuntu's better' form of advertising.

Terry Hancock's picture

The problem with the old BSD license wasn't about the commercial nature of advertising (free licenses are neither "non-commercial" nor "anti-commercial", remember).

The problem was that it put a burden on the end user and amounted to a restriction on mere use. That sort of condition conflicts with Stallman's "Freedom Zero" -- i.e. the freedom to use the program for any purpose.

Stallman (and others) argued that the BSD advertising clause was onerous, because, if applied to all of the software contributions to a distribution, would require covering the surface of the package up like a race car driver is with advertisements. It wasn't hard to come up with scenarios that easily showed how such requirements could get out of hand.

I think the desktop info idea fails the same test: it would create a real mess if everybody jumped on the band wagon and started doing it (and if it's not something everyone can do, then it shouldn't be allowed, right?).

OTOH, it would be kind of cool looking to come up with a desktop like that, just for fun (of course not every project has a snazzy logo to use).

Corfy's picture
Submitted by Corfy on

Not to take anything away from Richard Stallman or the GNU project, but where does the naming stop? Right or wrong, most users I know don't consider it an operating system without a graphical interface. So should we start referring to GNU/Linux/KDE or maybe GNU/Linux/X11/Xfce? Wait a minute, KDE is built on Qt, so maybe that should be added in. And with the recent push toward web applications, maybe we should throw the browser in there as well, like GNU/Linux/Xll/Qt/KDE/SeaMonkey.

On the other side, I'm sure Pepsi would love to have their drinks no longer referred to as "cokes", not all facial tissues are "Kleenex", and Jell-O isn't the only maker of fruit gellatin. So there is precent for names to not be used in their proper context, and getting people to change their habits in something like that is all but impossible.

Laurie Langham's picture

A few years ago the the motor industry began sticking more and more acronyms across the back of cars. You'd have GT, then GT SE, then GT SE Quad Cam, and so on. In the end they were even putting descriptions of minor things like air bags onto the name and they almost had to make the tail lights smaller just to fit it all on.

That's almost a thing of the past, now. I don't know who got sick of it first, the manufacturers, or the motorists, or both.

Terry Hancock's picture

I often use the words “Free Software Community” which I hope gives the new user the idea that there is a lot more involved than just the word Linux

I think you've got the solution right there. The amazing thing and the thing to communicate to people is that spirit of cooperation and contribution that has made all of free software happen.

Paul Gaskin's picture

Laurie wrote: "Maybe, the GPL should be modified so it insists that all distributions include a page, prepared by the FSF, to appear on the desktop of all new installations."

It doesn't need to be on the desktop. It's at the top of every GPL license which is distributed with every GPL-licensed package.

Anyone who bothers to read the license will find that even the Linux kernel is distributed with the preamble of the GPL which says:

"Preamble

The GNU General Public License is a free, copyleft license for software and other kinds of works.

The licenses for most software and other practical works are designed to take away your freedom to share and change the works. By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change all versions of a program--to make sure it remains free software for all its users. We, the Free Software Foundation, use the GNU General Public License for most of our software; it applies also to any other work released this way by its authors. You can apply it to your programs, too.

When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs, and that you know you can do these things.

To protect your rights, we need to prevent others from denying you these rights or asking you to surrender the rights. Therefore, you have certain responsibilities if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it: responsibilities to respect the freedom of others.

For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.

Developers that use the GNU GPL protect your rights with two steps: (1) assert copyright on the software, and (2) offer you this License giving you legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify it.

For the developers' and authors' protection, the GPL clearly explains that there is no warranty for this free software. For both users' and authors' sake, the GPL requires that modified versions be marked as changed, so that their problems will not be attributed erroneously to authors of previous versions.

Some devices are designed to deny users access to install or run modified versions of the software inside them, although the manufacturer can do so. This is fundamentally incompatible with the aim of protecting users' freedom to change the software. The systematic pattern of such abuse occurs in the area of products for individuals to use, which is precisely where it is most unacceptable. Therefore, we have designed this version of the GPL to prohibit the practice for those products. If such problems arise substantially in other domains, we stand ready to extend this provision to those domains in future versions of the GPL, as needed to protect the freedom of users.

Finally, every program is threatened constantly by software patents. States should not allow patents to restrict development and use of software on general-purpose computers, but in those that do, we wish to avoid the special danger that patents applied to a free program could make it effectively proprietary. To prevent this, the GPL assures that patents cannot be used to render the program non-free.

The precise terms and conditions for copying, distribution and modification follow."

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

Terry Hancock's picture

It doesn't need to be on the desktop. It's at the top of every GPL license which is distributed with every GPL-licensed package.

Anyone who bothers to read the license will find that even the Linux kernel is distributed with the preamble of the GPL [...]

It's an inspiring piece of writing, isn't it?

Paul Gaskin's picture

And it makes explicitly clear the intentions of the author of the license.

Someone raised the question either here or on FSDaily whether it was the GPL or the code of the Linux kernel which was the more disruptive technology.

It's the GPL.

crashsystems's picture

I believe that trying to make people use the "GNU/" prefix is a battle that cannot be won, simply due to the inherent laziness in mankind. If it magically could be done without adding any syllables, then it might just work...

Is it the name that is important, or the ideals behind it. I find that when I introduce people to "Linux," there is already more than enough information for them to absorb, without adding naming conventions to the mix. The ideas behind Free Software are very important to me, but the name is not. I always make sure to introduce these ideas to people when I tell them about "Linux," even though I don't use the word GNU. In spite of my intentional simplification of terms, I find that it is not long before the people I introduce to Free Software come to appreciate the freedoms embodied by the GNU license, and become familiar with the terms "GNU" and "Free Software."

AndyLinux's picture
Submitted by AndyLinux on

Hey there

GNU Horde makes sense, but GNU Linux? after 15 years implementing Linux within many many businesses, I personally have never met anyone that really cared about the fact that RMS runs around talking about GNU Linux and some zealots on mailing lists keep reminding you to call it that way. Currently I work for a bank and a few months bank RMS was in town and I asked a few of the smart people around if they like to join me and go to a talk of RMS. None of those people (senior IT people) knew who RMS was or what GNU was, only when mentioned that the license of Linux. which I happened to implement at the bank, was called GPL ergo Gnu public license they went, ok, so what? None of them joined me at the talk. I left early, since the group of people there just simply were not the group I would even employ. People who rather work for Google doing not very useful cool stuff, rather than for a bank and do quite useful linux migrations.

As passionate as I personally am about Open Source and Linux I personally believe that RMS's zealotry is part of the issue why so many so called Linux people do not want or care about business use of Linux. They live in a world in which MS, RedHat or Novell are the enemy and not where maybe using Linux is just good because it is just better not because others are bad.

From my experience RMS is completely irrelevant and should stop behaving like he is the Jesus of the software world. The term GNU/Linux is ridiculous and the whole GPLv3 issue a sign that Linux is just GNUv2 because Linus thinks it is useful, not because Linux is the GNU OS, which it is not. GNU Horde????

So .... Linux it is and Linux it will stay

Andy

Paul Gaskin's picture

GNU/Linux is GNU with the Linux kernel.

GNU/Solaris is GNU with the Solaris kernel.

GNU/Hurd is GNU with the Hurd kernel.

Ryan Cartwright's picture

I was about to write something similar but you beat me to it.

GNU/Linux is not a preference as much as it is an accurate description of what I am running.

What term you use depends upon how accurate you want to be. "GNU/Linux/X11/KDE/Firefox"? Well if you want to but usually all of that can be described with the distribution name: Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu etc. Most of the time people seem happy to know I am referring to Debian, the application stack only comes into it if it's relevant.

GNU/Linux describes the base upon which pretty much all -- er -- GNU/Linux distributions are built so I use it when referring generically to any distribution.

Nobody will ever force people to use GNU/Linux as a terminology but if those of us who know the difference make the distinction where it counts, people will eventualyl catch on or ask. Then again I am still running my one-man campaign to stop people referring to desktop background images as "screensavers" :o)

alandmoore's picture
Submitted by alandmoore on

I have to agree with Corfy. It's ironic to me that RMS campaigned so hard to get rid of the advertising clause, while at the same time the insistence on "GNU/Linux" is in the exact same spirit. Is GNU's contribution more important than X.org's, or KDE/GNOME/[Insert DE here]'s, or anyone elses?

Granted, "Linux" is probably no more important than the rest either, in some ways less (think about it -- presented with the same user space over a different kernel, how many users would care?)

Props to RMS on his many contributions, unfortunately terminology is not his strong point (don't get me started on the word 'free'). Fortunately his ideology will outlast the terminology.

Paul Gaskin's picture

Richard isn't pushing any legal arguments, he's just reminding people that it's right and proper to give credit to the GNU project for its work.

bogdanbiv's picture
Submitted by bogdanbiv on

If GNU/Hurd gains traction, maybe by similarity, it will transform Linux into GNU/Linux. And I do hope that GNU/Hurd as an architecture will gain traction and many developers will port their applications to this architecture. Or that they will work out-of-the-box.

Maurice Cepeda's picture

Maybe a new name would help ease the conflict.

Guhnew/linux is too hard difficult to pronounce.
Gnu/Linux (New/linux) is better but it still doesn't roll off the tongue.

Gnu/nux (New-nuks) is better, as odd as this sounds, but can be improved upon by a further contraction. How's about Gnuxs (nuks, rhymes with nuts, or nooks)?

Hey doesn't the American missile defense system use Gnu/Linux? Gnuxs (Nooks) it is!

In this vain, Gnu/Hurd could be "Gnurd" (pronounced "Nerd").

This is a serious issue, something I plan to write upon when I get some time. On the whole issue of the slash, which is improperly used, credit where credit is due --which incidentally may not be as much on the FSF camp as some of us think (bless FSF all the same), and a few other related issues.

Laurie Langham's picture

I apologise for not attending to this thread for several days. A personal tragedy arose, when an old Chewowow, who'd lived with me for many years, died. RIP, Fifi.

I would like to point out that Richard Stallman has my complete respect for everything that he has done, and is currently doing. He, personally, developed most of the concept and original code-tools that we now know as GNU/Linux. He has continued to be involved with his vision of Free Software at every step of its development.

I use the term GNU/Linux, myself, because I understand the reasons why it became necessary. However, this attempt at a solution does carry problems in itself and additional means to solve these problems should by all means be sought.

Contrary to what I've written above, a huffingtonpost.com article, by the excellent James Love, called "Free Software", has been successfully promoted at Free Software Daily;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/free-software_b_126303.html

Love correctly identifies "Linux" as GNU/Linux then goes on to inform his readers with the sort of high-quality article that any of the Free Software Community would have liked to have written themselves.

Maybe there is considerable traction for the term GNU/Linux, yet.

Laurie Langham's picture

Thanks, Balzac. Yeah, I've done that too, after a few golden ales. Actually, I've found that, if you're quick enough, you can hit the plus arrow and it'll reverse the mistaken negative vote for you. This depends entirely upon the number of golden ales that proceeded, or if you can still see the keyboard, of course.

Ryan Cartwright's picture

My condolences on your loss -- pets are very personal things and it can be an upsetting time when they die.

To be honest though I hadn't noticed you were not taking part, I just assumed you'd lit the blue touchpaper and stood back a little. :o)

cheers
Ryan

Laurie Langham's picture

Thanks, Ryan. No, I'd been pondering about the GNU and Linux conundrum and I'm very interested in other opinions on the topic.

igli's picture
Submitted by igli on

> Is GNU's contribution more important than X.org's, or KDE/GNOME/[Insert DE here]'s, or anyone elses?

Yes it is. Without the Unix replacement tools the GNU project provided, Linux would never have had any userspace, nor any development tools. That's why Torvalds agreed to use the GPL; it was only fair given the amount of code he was getting access to. The whole point of GNU and the FSF is to provide an _ecosystem_ wherein users' interests are paramount. This Stallman and his "mad zealots" have done spectacularly well.

Anyone working with GNU/Linux in any manner is a user.

The fact that you can have this debate at all, or say rollout websites at low-cost, is thanks to rms. The other projects you mention, apart from X, owe their very existence to the GPL. Current Xorg development owes a lot to the GNU ecosystem too, since that is where a great deal of testing and development goes on.

Take away gcc, GNU make, and GNU binutils, and see how far you get with developing your own OS, leave alone all the other myriad 'boring' utilities that make your work possible. Try getting your software ported to virtually any OS without GNU autotools, at a time when POSIX never existed.

All that doesn't make him my, or anyone's, saviour, but it does make him a lot more important than some of you make out, and it certainly means that any Linux installation is a great deal more than just a kernel, important though that part may be.

Yeah I say Linux too. If I were writing an article about it, I'd use GNU/Linux though, at least at the start as Love did, especially so if it were for people new to it.

Laurie Langham's picture

Personally, I always think of Stallman's copyleft concept as being his greatest achievement; simple, elegant and effective.

It's a pity that GNU has been trumped by the sheer ease of simply saying Linux. But Linux is such a 2D description of all that is involved.

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A retired, recent Kubuntu fanatic, who has graduated through Microsoft, Mandrake, Debian, Ubuntu,and now to Kubuntu.